http://www.listsearch.com/Yojimbo/index.lasso Yojimbo talk is an email discussion forum for the Yojimbo product from Bare Bones Software, Inc. en-us Thu, 15 May 2008 18:11:09 -0400 http://www.listsearch.com/Yojimbo/Message/index.lasso?4667 David G. Simmons to Yojimbo Talk on 2008-05-15 18:11:09 - -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 I am having something odd with sync going on ... a specific Yojimbo item (a pdf) is not showing up on one machine, een though it is on the other. I even tried a 'reset sync items' and replaced the... Thu, 15 May 2008 12:48:54 -0400 http://www.listsearch.com/Yojimbo/Message/index.lasso?4666 Patrick Gilmour to Yojimbo Talk on 2008-05-15 12:48:54 - Hi, I recently read this article on setting keyboard shortcuts for the PDF button in the Print dialog... http://www.macosxhints.com/article.php?story 20071024183248220 I'm running 10.5.2 and am trying to get this to work with Yojimbo but to... Thu, 08 May 2008 16:23:04 -0400 http://www.listsearch.com/Yojimbo/Message/index.lasso?4665 Scott J. Lopez to Yojimbo Talk on 2008-05-08 16:23:04 - Well it sounds like Yojimbo isn't the product for you, but if you're willing to "jailbreak" your iPhone there's a number of tools that will do what you're looking for. You can edit files right on the iPhone with vi (if you're comfortable with it and a ... Thu, 08 May 2008 15:14:29 -0400 http://www.listsearch.com/Yojimbo/Message/index.lasso?4664 Luis Roca - Popular Interactive to Yojimbo Talk on 2008-05-08 15:14:29 - Scott M Ok, I may have a possible solution for you. I ve recently set this up to maintain my GTD system. (So take that into account.) However, since you said you once used text files it should be pretty easy. I use BBEdit for all of my notes, though... Thu, 08 May 2008 15:00:05 -0400 http://www.listsearch.com/Yojimbo/Message/index.lasso?4663 dsm101 to Yojimbo Talk on 2008-05-08 15:00:05 - I've looked at Webjimbo and it didn't work for my purposes. A lot of my time for personal planning happens while I'm commuting on BART, and network access is frustratingly intermittent. And even when I'm within network access, the iPhone can be s... Wed, 07 May 2008 18:57:09 -0400 http://www.listsearch.com/Yojimbo/Message/index.lasso?4662 Dennis to Yojimbo Talk on 2008-05-07 18:57:09 - On May 7, 2008, at 3:17 PM, Rhet Turnbull wrote: > On May 7, 2008, at 3:51 PM, dsm101@mac.com wrote: >> The killer feature for me at this point would be to be able to >> access and edit my text notes on my iPhone. > > While it's not as ideal as a... Wed, 07 May 2008 18:17:05 -0400 http://www.listsearch.com/Yojimbo/Message/index.lasso?4661 Rhet Turnbull to Yojimbo Talk on 2008-05-07 18:17:05 - On May 7, 2008, at 3:51 PM, dsm101@mac.com wrote: > The killer feature for me at this point would be to be able to > access and edit my text notes on my iPhone. If While it's not as ideal as a native solution from BareBones, you might want to lo... Wed, 07 May 2008 16:51:12 -0400 http://www.listsearch.com/Yojimbo/Message/index.lasso?4660 dsm101 to Yojimbo Talk on 2008-05-07 16:51:12 - > Sounds like you need OmniFocus. Thanks for the suggestion. I'm surprised I didn't know about it, as I have and love some of their other programs. I've downloaded it and will take a look. One thing I saw in the description that was attractive... Tue, 06 May 2008 21:37:13 -0400 http://www.listsearch.com/Yojimbo/Message/index.lasso?4659 Bill Rowe to Yojimbo Talk on 2008-05-06 21:37:13 - On 5/6/08 at 5:26 AM, dsm101@mac.com wrote: >(The reason David Allen recommends a simple A-to-Z filing system as >part of the GTD method, it seems to me, is less about ease of >retrieval and more about ease of filing. For me, this is where Yojimbo... Tue, 06 May 2008 08:39:01 -0400 http://www.listsearch.com/Yojimbo/Message/index.lasso?4658 dsm101 to Yojimbo Talk on 2008-05-06 08:39:01 - > You re definitely not alone in your > hesitance to use tags. David said > this weekend that humans are spatial > thinkers. Which is why stuffing things > into an established hierarchy makes > more sense than tags. While it s true > that - so... Tue, 06 May 2008 08:35:22 -0400 http://www.listsearch.com/Yojimbo/Message/index.lasso?4657 infrahile to Yojimbo Talk on 2008-05-06 08:35:22 - Sounds like you need OmniFocus. I find it works perfectly with YJ - any detailed notes, saved documents I have relating to a task in YJ can be linked to from OF by pasting the item link as a note for the task making the two work pretty seamles... Tue, 06 May 2008 08:31:30 -0400 http://www.listsearch.com/Yojimbo/Message/index.lasso?4656 dsm101 to Yojimbo Talk on 2008-05-06 08:31:30 - > So, as a simple example, say you're moving homes. I think you'd picked an example that doesn't really map well onto my usual situation with a project, in two regards: First, more than half of my projects are things where, once the project is co... Tue, 06 May 2008 08:30:41 -0400 http://www.listsearch.com/Yojimbo/Message/index.lasso?4655 dsm101 to Yojimbo Talk on 2008-05-06 08:30:41 - > What would happen if the tag collection > had several tags associated with it? > Would you assign all of the available > tags to an item dragged to that > collection? Absolutely. Why else would I be dragging it to that collection, if not b... Tue, 06 May 2008 08:26:36 -0400 http://www.listsearch.com/Yojimbo/Message/index.lasso?4654 dsm101 to Yojimbo Talk on 2008-05-06 08:26:36 - > I read and re-read your post. I find > your system impressive but very confusing > to me. Maybe I made things sound more complicated than they had to be by giving too many details. Basically, whether I'm doing a GTD review or I'm making pla... Tue, 06 May 2008 08:21:04 -0400 http://www.listsearch.com/Yojimbo/Message/index.lasso?4653 dsm101 to Yojimbo Talk on 2008-05-06 08:21:04 - > I have to say your use of Yojimbo as > an everyday GTD tool is pretty impressive. > Just the ambition to try and use it that > way is impressive. I don t really see that > as the purpose of Yojimbo. (It s really > just considered an archival a... Mon, 05 May 2008 14:05:39 -0400 http://www.listsearch.com/Yojimbo/Message/index.lasso?4652 Carlton Gibson to Yojimbo Talk on 2008-05-05 14:05:39 - On 5 May 2008, at 18:00, Luis Roca wrote: > Carlton, > You've inspired me. I'm planning a trip to the > Bronx Zoo in the next few weeks. : ) Glad to be of service. Have fun! :-) C -- ------------------------------------------------------... Mon, 05 May 2008 13:12:21 -0400 http://www.listsearch.com/Yojimbo/Message/index.lasso?4651 cubic.archon to Yojimbo Talk on 2008-05-05 13:12:21 - On Mon, May 5, 2008 at 6:00 PM, Luis Roca <luis.roca@popularinteractive.com> wrote: > You're definitely not alone in your hesitance to use tags. David said > this weekend that humans are spacial thinkers. Which is why stuffing > things into an esta... Mon, 05 May 2008 13:06:39 -0400 http://www.listsearch.com/Yojimbo/Message/index.lasso?4650 cubic.archon to Yojimbo Talk on 2008-05-05 13:06:39 - My system keeps changing, but at the moment... Folders - I maintain very broad categories of folder, which are really only used for the drop box panel. They correspond to the answer to the question "why am I storing this?" Is it for future reference,... Mon, 05 May 2008 13:00:09 -0400 http://www.listsearch.com/Yojimbo/Message/index.lasso?4649 Luis Roca to Yojimbo Talk on 2008-05-05 13:00:09 - I like this idea alot. > I think that it would be natural to expect either that if you drag an item > into a tag collection, it would be automatically tagged as to fit in that > collection. -- --------------------------------------------------... Mon, 05 May 2008 13:00:07 -0400 http://www.listsearch.com/Yojimbo/Message/index.lasso?4648 Luis Roca to Yojimbo Talk on 2008-05-05 13:00:07 - Scott M. I have to say your use of Yojimbo as an everyday GTD tool is pretty impressive. Just the ambition to try and use it that way is impressive. I don t really see that as the purpose of Yojimbo. (It s really just considered an archival applicati... Mon, 05 May 2008 12:44:45 -0400 http://www.listsearch.com/Yojimbo/Message/index.lasso?4647 Sean Chou to Yojimbo Talk on 2008-05-05 12:44:45 - This is a great idea! I've always wondered how folks use Yojimbo and approach data management in general. Although we all have our pet requests, I'm sure the vast majority of us incorporated deeply into our workflow. For me, data management falls in... Mon, 05 May 2008 12:02:51 -0400 http://www.listsearch.com/Yojimbo/Message/index.lasso?4646 infrahile to Yojimbo Talk on 2008-05-05 12:02:51 - On 5 May 2008, at 16:45, Bill Rowe wrote: > What would happen if the tag collection had several tags associated > with it? Would you assign all of the available tags to an item > dragged to that collection? That's exactly what I'd expect it to... Mon, 05 May 2008 12:02:14 -0400 http://www.listsearch.com/Yojimbo/Message/index.lasso?4645 cubic.archon to Yojimbo Talk on 2008-05-05 12:02:14 - On Mon, 05 May 2008 07:22:49 -0400, dsm101@mac.com said: > Okay, I remembered that there was a window somewhere with a list of > tags, and I dug around it and found it in preferences. So if I were to > create a tag for each project, I could view th... Mon, 05 May 2008 11:56:28 -0400 http://www.listsearch.com/Yojimbo/Message/index.lasso?4644 david to Yojimbo Talk on 2008-05-05 11:56:28 - Bill - good question and the answer becomes more complex as our ability to search on tags becomes more complex. A tag collection with one tag item or a multiple search involving AND it would be pretty easy to alert the user to the definition and... Mon, 05 May 2008 11:45:23 -0400 http://www.listsearch.com/Yojimbo/Message/index.lasso?4643 Bill Rowe to Yojimbo Talk on 2008-05-05 11:45:23 - On 5/5/08 at 7:23 AM, orcsbr@gmail.com (Paulo Diniz) wrote: >I think that it would be natural to expect either that if you drag >an item into a tag collection, it would be automatically tagged as >to fit in that collection. What would happen if th... Mon, 05 May 2008 09:41:11 -0400 http://www.listsearch.com/Yojimbo/Message/index.lasso?4642 Claude to Yojimbo Talk on 2008-05-05 09:41:11 - Very interesting : thanks ! I love tags... but I still need to SEE all my files in folders (like in ancient times...) But I never go further than one nested folder by main folder (sorry for my bad english, hope you will understand). Claude ... Mon, 05 May 2008 09:21:23 -0400 http://www.listsearch.com/Yojimbo/Message/index.lasso?4641 Steve Kalkwarf to Yojimbo Talk on 2008-05-05 09:21:23 - >But in that case I'd like to be able to add a prefix to a tag >as soon as the project is completed, to drop it to the bottom >of that list and keep only the active projects on top. Is there >a way to edit a tag once you've created it so that it wil... Mon, 05 May 2008 09:11:28 -0400 http://www.listsearch.com/Yojimbo/Message/index.lasso?4640 Steve Kalkwarf to Yojimbo Talk on 2008-05-05 09:11:28 - >I agree completely with your mail. Sometimes I am afraid to >forget some items because I don't remember all the tags' name. >I really need tags and folders. >I try Eaglefiler (nested folders AND tags) : it tastes like >Yojimbo, but it is not Yojim... Mon, 05 May 2008 08:27:31 -0400 http://www.listsearch.com/Yojimbo/Message/index.lasso?4639 Claude to Yojimbo Talk on 2008-05-05 08:27:31 - I agree completely with your mail. Sometimes I am afraid to forget some items because I don't remember all the tags' name. I really need tags and folders. I try Eaglefiler (nested folders AND tags) : it tastes like Yojimbo, but it is not Yojimbo... Mon, 05 May 2008 07:33:57 -0400 http://www.listsearch.com/Yojimbo/Message/index.lasso?4638 Verdon Vaillancourt to Yojimbo Talk on 2008-05-05 07:33:57 - On 5-May-08, at 7:23 AM, Lawrence J Winkler wrote: > I would like the flexibiity to make entries read-only: a toggle Read- > Only/Edit -- no password to toggle from one to the other state. Just > something to protect my entries from me. I'll seco... Mon, 05 May 2008 07:23:29 -0400 http://www.listsearch.com/Yojimbo/Message/index.lasso?4637 Paulo Diniz to Yojimbo Talk on 2008-05-05 07:23:29 - I forgot to say, one thing that bothers me a bit in Yojimbo is that Tag Collections are not treated the same way as 'regular' Collections, in the sense that you can't drag and drop stuff into a Tag Collecion as you can do with a regular Collection. ... Mon, 05 May 2008 07:23:13 -0400 http://www.listsearch.com/Yojimbo/Message/index.lasso?4636 Paulo Diniz to Yojimbo Talk on 2008-05-05 07:23:13 - Great discussion here, I'm pretty sure that it isn't the purpose of the list, but i think it`s important to discuss organization methods. Like said below, we're so busy most of the time dealing with what is given to us (a third of the time, or whatever... Mon, 05 May 2008 07:23:01 -0400 http://www.listsearch.com/Yojimbo/Message/index.lasso?4635 Lawrence J Winkler to Yojimbo Talk on 2008-05-05 07:23:01 - On the subject of features I would like in Yojimbo, though I did mention it several years ago. Just a reminder and perhaps an answer from the developers on whether it would really be considered. I would like the flexibiity to make entries read-o... Mon, 05 May 2008 07:22:49 -0400 http://www.listsearch.com/Yojimbo/Message/index.lasso?4634 dsm101 to Yojimbo Talk on 2008-05-05 07:22:49 - Okay, I remembered that there was a window somewhere with a list of tags, and I dug around it and found it in preferences. So if I were to create a tag for each project, I could view the list of projects here. Seems a little odd but I could get u... Mon, 05 May 2008 07:22:42 -0400 http://www.listsearch.com/Yojimbo/Message/index.lasso?4633 dsm101 to Yojimbo Talk on 2008-05-05 07:22:42 - I'm another mostly happy Yojimbo user who would be even happier with nested folders. Well, that and being able to sync my notes to my iPhone -- hopefully that will come soon enough. I admit that I have very little experience using tags. I have ma... Sat, 03 May 2008 11:55:42 -0400 http://www.listsearch.com/Yojimbo/Message/index.lasso?4632 Carlton Gibson to Yojimbo Talk on 2008-05-03 11:55:42 - Luis, On 3 May 2008, at 15:40, Luis Roca wrote: > I do have to respectfully disagree with the idea of a *correct* > folder. > I m not saying it doesn t exist or can t be part of a larger > organizational system. I just think this method can eas... Sat, 03 May 2008 11:44:45 -0400 http://www.listsearch.com/Yojimbo/Message/index.lasso?4631 david to Yojimbo Talk on 2008-05-03 11:44:45 - > I do have to respectfully disagree with the idea of a *correct* > folder. > I m not saying it doesn t exist or can t be part of a larger > organizational system. I just think this method can easily (and often > does) break down when a second user ... Sat, 03 May 2008 11:06:30 -0400 http://www.listsearch.com/Yojimbo/Message/index.lasso?4630 Luis Roca to Yojimbo Talk on 2008-05-03 11:06:30 - > I want to start a positive thread on what interesting things everyone > uses Yojimbo for.. Maybe everyone could post one interesting thing > they use the application for, we all might find some new uses.. Thanks for changing the direction Scott. ... Sat, 03 May 2008 10:40:52 -0400 http://www.listsearch.com/Yojimbo/Message/index.lasso?4629 Luis Roca to Yojimbo Talk on 2008-05-03 10:40:52 - Keith I m not getting a sense that your sincerely happy for me. Maybe I m just a little insecure. I don t know but this is neither the time or the place for that discussion. : ) Scott responded to this but since you directed it at me it s only fair ... Sat, 03 May 2008 09:40:34 -0400 http://www.listsearch.com/Yojimbo/Message/index.lasso?4628 Jim Correia to Yojimbo Talk on 2008-05-03 09:40:34 - On May 2, 2008, at 2:01 PM, Krzysztof Maj wrote: > Why when I moved doc file to the Yojimbo library I will get .rtf > file? Is a internal .doc->.rtf converter or what? The problem is > when I export once again this file and open it in MS Word 200... Sat, 03 May 2008 04:22:08 -0400 http://www.listsearch.com/Yojimbo/Message/index.lasso?4627 Carlton Gibson to Yojimbo Talk on 2008-05-03 04:22:08 - On 3 May 2008, at 01:32, Scott J. Lopez wrote: > I want to start a positive thread on what interesting things everyone > uses Yojimbo for.. Maybe everyone could post one interesting thing > they use the application for, we all might find some new use... Fri, 02 May 2008 21:41:48 -0400 http://www.listsearch.com/Yojimbo/Message/index.lasso?4626 infrahile to Yojimbo Talk on 2008-05-02 21:41:48 - Personally, along as it's civil, I think a bit of heated debate is all good fun - livens things up a bit! :o) T. On 2 May 2008, at 23:19, Scott J. Lopez wrote: > No one said Yojimbo is a GTD tool, but apparently people use it for > that ... Fri, 02 May 2008 20:32:30 -0400 http://www.listsearch.com/Yojimbo/Message/index.lasso?4625 Scott J. Lopez to Yojimbo Talk on 2008-05-02 20:32:30 - I want to start a positive thread on what interesting things everyone uses Yojimbo for.. Maybe everyone could post one interesting thing they use the application for, we all might find some new uses.. So here's mine.. I use Yojimbo for saving re... Fri, 02 May 2008 19:54:31 -0400 http://www.listsearch.com/Yojimbo/Message/index.lasso?4624 Robertson Dale A. to Yojimbo Talk on 2008-05-02 19:54:31 - HEAR HEAR! On May 2, 2008, at 18:19, Scott J. Lopez wrote: > No one said Yojimbo is a GTD tool, but apparently people use it for > that given the number of posts that reference it. There are several > Mac programs specifically for GTD actually, sh... Fri, 02 May 2008 18:19:03 -0400 http://www.listsearch.com/Yojimbo/Message/index.lasso?4623 Scott J. Lopez to Yojimbo Talk on 2008-05-02 18:19:03 - No one said Yojimbo is a GTD tool, but apparently people use it for that given the number of posts that reference it. There are several Mac programs specifically for GTD actually, should anyone want them (search versiontracker.com). As for someone b... Fri, 02 May 2008 16:47:52 -0400 http://www.listsearch.com/Yojimbo/Message/index.lasso?4622 infrahile to Yojimbo Talk on 2008-05-02 16:47:52 - Thanks for your response Steve, great to have some direct answers from the guy who kicked it all off :o) Now, naturally, I want more! :o) In the past I've drawn a distinction between 'nested folders' and a means to group collections in the sid... Fri, 02 May 2008 16:08:03 -0400 http://www.listsearch.com/Yojimbo/Message/index.lasso?4621 Keith Ledbetter to Yojimbo Talk on 2008-05-02 16:08:03 - On May 2, 2008, at 10:57 AM, Luis Roca wrote: > Lorin and Kenneth identified the real issue very well. I think a lot > of > the discomfort with not having nested folders is due to a habit of > putting off properly identifying an item. We keep brin... Fri, 02 May 2008 15:12:40 -0400 http://www.listsearch.com/Yojimbo/Message/index.lasso?4620 Dennis to Yojimbo Talk on 2008-05-02 15:12:40 - On May 2, 2008, at 5:06 AM, Jan Rychter wrote: > When the focus is in the collections panel, pressing tab should take > me > to the list of documents, not to the little buttons below the > collections panel. [snip] > Next TAB should go to th... Fri, 02 May 2008 14:20:28 -0400 http://www.listsearch.com/Yojimbo/Message/index.lasso?4619 Dennis to Yojimbo Talk on 2008-05-02 14:20:28 - On May 2, 2008, at 9:49 AM, david wrote: > Perhaps there's a context within which the paragraph below explains > how tags are superior to folders but it eludes me. I'm not arguing > that tags don't have value and aren't at times more valuable tha... Fri, 02 May 2008 14:03:41 -0400 http://www.listsearch.com/Yojimbo/Message/index.lasso?4618 Krzysztof Maj to Yojimbo Talk on 2008-05-02 14:03:41 - On 2008-05-01, at 04:44, Charlie Garrison wrote: > Good afternoon, > > On 30/4/08 at 5:31 PM -0400, Luis Roca <luis.roca@popularinteractive.com > > wrote: > >> With that said I m going to make a non-feature request to the Bare >> Bones/Yojimbo t...