http://www.listsearch.com/Lasso/index.lasso Lasso Talk is an email discussion forum for discussion of the Lasso Professional and Lasso Developer products from LassoSoft, LLC. en-us Sat, 31 Jul 2010 21:41:27 -0700 http://www.listsearch.com/Lasso/Message/index.lasso?257979 Steve Piercy - Web Site Builder to Lasso Talk on 2010-07-31 21:41:27 - I don't know what you mean by "area". If you mean page: https://lassosoft.wiki.zoho.com/How-to-Use-This-Wiki.html#How to suggest a new wiki page How to suggest a new wiki page Only Editors and Administrators can create a new wiki page. T... Sat, 31 Jul 2010 21:37:38 -0700 http://www.listsearch.com/Lasso/Message/index.lasso?257978 Steve Piercy - Web Site Builder to Lasso Talk on 2010-07-31 21:37:38 - Can you provide more details, specifically the steps you perform to try to do something? It is possible that someone mucked up the HTML and the WYSIWYG editor won't behave nicely. If that is the case, you can toggle the view to HTML mode and beat ... Sat, 31 Jul 2010 20:42:54 -0700 http://www.listsearch.com/Lasso/Message/index.lasso?257977 Tim Taplin to Lasso Talk on 2010-07-31 20:42:54 - hmm, it looks like there is an issue with storing the map type inside the array when serialized into the session. If I replace the insert map lines with insert pair, it works as expected. So this looks like there may be some issue with map serializatio... Sat, 31 Jul 2010 20:07:13 -0700 http://www.listsearch.com/Lasso/Message/index.lasso?257976 Tim Taplin to Lasso Talk on 2010-07-31 20:07:13 - had to make sure you were at least that far. I don't do much wiki or similar type of editing so I'm not certain but, given the wording of the section on wiki usage and requesting new pages, I'd venture that you'd have to request the addition of a new p... Sat, 31 Jul 2010 20:02:46 -0700 http://www.listsearch.com/Lasso/Message/index.lasso?257975 Tami Williams to Lasso Talk on 2010-07-31 20:02:46 - You can download a test page that shows the problem at http://www.asktami.com/download/Session.zip Then load the page at http://YourLP9IP/Session.lasso?action p1 First time it runs this line is uncommented and everything works: $IndexLinks->In... Sat, 31 Jul 2010 19:50:29 -0700 http://www.listsearch.com/Lasso/Message/index.lasso?257974 Brian Loomis to Lasso Talk on 2010-07-31 19:50:29 - yeah I got that far, but couldn't seem to add sibling or child documents in a tree at all. I can't add extra areas, and can only edit exiting ones. Brian On Jul 31, 2010, at 8:43 PM, Tim Taplin wrote: > possibly redundant suggestion but, you nee... Sat, 31 Jul 2010 19:43:39 -0700 http://www.listsearch.com/Lasso/Message/index.lasso?257973 Tim Taplin to Lasso Talk on 2010-07-31 19:43:39 - possibly redundant suggestion but, you need to use the links that appear at the top of the page after you login. choosing the page item and selecting edit page from the menu that drops down will allow you to edit the page. Hope that is helpful. On J... Sat, 31 Jul 2010 19:34:06 -0700 http://www.listsearch.com/Lasso/Message/index.lasso?257972 Brian Loomis to Lasso Talk on 2010-07-31 19:34:06 - Well I've been sitting in Zoho for twenty minutes logged in trying to add a bullet point or new area under something, but I'm not getting anywhere fast. Can we only edit the areas that are already created? Any tips steve? On Jul 31, 2010, at 2:53 A... Sat, 31 Jul 2010 19:18:05 -0700 http://www.listsearch.com/Lasso/Message/index.lasso?257971 Tim Taplin to Lasso Talk on 2010-07-31 19:18:05 - On Jul 31, 2010, at 4:49 PM, Tami Williams wrote: > So, I'm trying to find out if there are any downsides to using this, for debugging for example, to check if a variable has been defined: > > > A. [var keys->find('MyVarName')->Size] > (outputs 0... Sat, 31 Jul 2010 17:36:17 -0700 http://www.listsearch.com/Lasso/Message/index.lasso?257970 Tami Williams to Lasso Talk on 2010-07-31 17:36:17 - You can download a test page that shows the problem at http://www.asktami.com/download/Session.lasso.zip Then load the page at http://YourLP9IP/Session.lasso?action p1 First time it runs this line is uncommented and everything works: $IndexL... Sat, 31 Jul 2010 16:16:17 -0700 http://www.listsearch.com/Lasso/Message/index.lasso?257969 Steve Piercy - Web Site Builder to Lasso Talk on 2010-07-31 16:16:17 - "I see dead colons." Also we're missing the context of how these variables are stored in a session and how the session is started and persists. IOW, the complete code sample required to replicate and therefore better understand the issue is not ... Sat, 31 Jul 2010 16:05:16 -0700 http://www.listsearch.com/Lasso/Message/index.lasso?257968 Steve Piercy - Web Site Builder to Lasso Talk on 2010-07-31 16:05:16 - In 9, using the Quick Code in Admin: https://lassosoft.wiki.zoho.com/Using-Server-Administration.html#Lasso Quick Code var defined('MyVarName'); $MyVarName; > FAILURE: -9947 The variable MyVarName was not found My results are different from y... Sat, 31 Jul 2010 15:54:10 -0700 http://www.listsearch.com/Lasso/Message/index.lasso?257967 Tami Williams to Lasso Talk on 2010-07-31 15:54:10 - CODE WITHOUT COLONS below - no change in how it runs. OK, I'm getting closer and hope someone can help me. I have a session var call IndexLinks. Its an array. For testing purposes (to debug this) I'm setting it to be an empty array, then d... Sat, 31 Jul 2010 15:49:42 -0700 http://www.listsearch.com/Lasso/Message/index.lasso?257966 Tami Williams to Lasso Talk on 2010-07-31 15:49:42 - So, I'm trying to find out if there are any downsides to using this, for debugging for example, to check if a variable has been defined: A. [var keys->find('MyVarName')->Size] (outputs 0 or >0) OR !(Var Defined: 'MyVarName') ? 'N/A'; ... Sat, 31 Jul 2010 15:31:22 -0700 http://www.listsearch.com/Lasso/Message/index.lasso?257965 Steve Piercy - Web Site Builder to Lasso Talk on 2010-07-31 15:31:22 - STRONGLY suggest giving your code a colectomy and using the parentheses syntax. Personally I tend not to provide feedback for 9 code that uses colons because the parser in 9 may do things in an unexpected manner and colon syntax itself is ambiguo... Sat, 31 Jul 2010 15:14:20 -0700 http://www.listsearch.com/Lasso/Message/index.lasso?257964 Tami Williams to Lasso Talk on 2010-07-31 15:14:20 - OK, I'm getting closer and hope someone can help me. I have a session var call IndexLinks. Its an array. For testing purposes (to debug this) I'm setting it to be an empty array, then doing a conditional check to fill it with elements. Then I ... Sat, 31 Jul 2010 14:49:08 -0700 http://www.listsearch.com/Lasso/Message/index.lasso?257963 Tami Williams to Lasso Talk on 2010-07-31 14:49:08 - I decided this week to finally start learning lasso 9 and to do so by converting my lassocookbook code from 8.5 to 9 and what's been killing me is 1. Lasso 9 is a lot less forgiving than 8.5 was and, 2. I'm more of a learn a new language using ... Sat, 31 Jul 2010 14:45:20 -0700 http://www.listsearch.com/Lasso/Message/index.lasso?257962 Deco Rior to Lasso Talk on 2010-07-31 14:45:20 - Hold on a second. I think I misread it. Is this just function/method overloading? presumably the signature is define variable(pr::pair) and not define variable(pr::pair) > var(#pr->first #pr->second On Jul 31, 2010, at 3:28 PM, T... Sat, 31 Jul 2010 14:38:56 -0700 http://www.listsearch.com/Lasso/Message/index.lasso?257961 Deco Rior to Lasso Talk on 2010-07-31 14:38:56 - Just being neighborly On Jul 31, 2010, at 3:37 PM, Rick Draper wrote: > >> Yes, I thought it meant that the NZ and Aussie lasso codes would be > expelled form the country after it was returned to their native population. > > It's nice that yo... Sat, 31 Jul 2010 14:37:22 -0700 http://www.listsearch.com/Lasso/Message/index.lasso?257960 Steve Piercy - Web Site Builder to Lasso Talk on 2010-07-31 14:37:22 - Try: http://lassosoft.wiki.zoho.com/Defining-Methods.html --steve On 7/31/10 at 3:34 PM, decorior@tennissource.net (Deco Rior) pronounced: > HI, Tim: > > Thanks, but the link did not work. > > What other languages support this type of fe... Sat, 31 Jul 2010 14:37:07 -0700 http://www.listsearch.com/Lasso/Message/index.lasso?257959 Rick Draper to Lasso Talk on 2010-07-31 14:37:07 - >Yes, I thought it meant that the NZ and Aussie lasso codes would be expelled form the country after it was returned to their native population. It's nice that you are think of us!! We would spell it "decolonising" :-) Very best regards, Rick ... Sat, 31 Jul 2010 14:34:35 -0700 http://www.listsearch.com/Lasso/Message/index.lasso?257958 Deco Rior to Lasso Talk on 2010-07-31 14:34:35 - HI, Tim: Thanks, but the link did not work. What other languages support this type of feature? Deco On Jul 31, 2010, at 3:28 PM, Tim Taplin wrote: > This is the mulltiple dispatch feature which allows you to define multiple versions o... Sat, 31 Jul 2010 14:29:04 -0700 http://www.listsearch.com/Lasso/Message/index.lasso?257957 Deco Rior to Lasso Talk on 2010-07-31 14:29:04 - Yes, I thought it meant that the NZ and Aussie lasso codes would be expelled form the country after it was returned to their native population. On Jul 31, 2010, at 3:24 PM, Marc Pinnell wrote: > Well, there you go again! ;-) > > "decolonizing"? ... Sat, 31 Jul 2010 14:28:36 -0700 http://www.listsearch.com/Lasso/Message/index.lasso?257956 Tim Taplin to Lasso Talk on 2010-07-31 14:28:36 - This is the mulltiple dispatch feature which allows you to define multiple versions of the same method and let lasso use the most appropriate version at tinting. More accurate description at http://lassosoft.wiki.soho.com/Defining-Methods.html particularl... Sat, 31 Jul 2010 14:24:02 -0700 http://www.listsearch.com/Lasso/Message/index.lasso?257955 Marc Pinnell to Lasso Talk on 2010-07-31 14:24:02 - Well, there you go again! ;-) "decolonizing"? Oh wait, now I see... as in colon not as in colony.... read it wrong the first two times! Marc On Jul 31, 2010, at 2:18 PM, Tim Taplin wrote: > Looking forward to the questions. Old code will lik... Sat, 31 Jul 2010 14:18:19 -0700 http://www.listsearch.com/Lasso/Message/index.lasso?257954 Tim Taplin to Lasso Talk on 2010-07-31 14:18:19 - Looking forward to the questions. Old code will likely have room for improvement (I know mine usually does) so you won't feel like you are wasting your time. Strongly suggest starting by decolonizing the code. It will avoid many pitfalls and refamilia... Sat, 31 Jul 2010 14:18:24 -0700 http://www.listsearch.com/Lasso/Message/index.lasso?257953 Deco Rior to Lasso Talk on 2010-07-31 14:18:24 - Our continued road block is that we really have just one project with a lot of code. Because Lasso 8.5 and Lasso 9 sessions cannot live together easily we don't have a viable migration path. E.g. a lasso 8.5 page cannot call a lasso 9 page. We do have ... Sat, 31 Jul 2010 14:08:30 -0700 http://www.listsearch.com/Lasso/Message/index.lasso?257952 Deco Rior to Lasso Talk on 2010-07-31 14:08:30 - On Jul 31, 2010, at 1:31 AM, list@carlestam.com wrote: > define variable(pr::pair) > var(#pr->first #pr->second) > define variable(k) > var(#k) i have not spend much time with Lasso 9, but could you explain the above In most OO languages y... Sat, 31 Jul 2010 13:39:09 -0700 http://www.listsearch.com/Lasso/Message/index.lasso?257951 Marc Pinnell to Lasso Talk on 2010-07-31 13:39:09 - I can buy that approach. Just have to figure out where I get a small project. 90% of my sites run under my CMS or a branch of it. So that leaves that last 10%. Unfortunately, that 10% represents old, legacy code and I am not sure that is the best candidat... Sat, 31 Jul 2010 13:19:17 -0700 http://www.listsearch.com/Lasso/Message/index.lasso?257950 Steve Piercy - Web Site Builder to Lasso Talk on 2010-07-31 13:19:17 - I agree with Tim. Just take a deep breath and dive in. The water's fine. If you expect that your project will just run, then you will be frustrated and disappointed. If you break it into smaller pieces, running test cases on each custom tag an... Sat, 31 Jul 2010 12:13:24 -0700 http://www.listsearch.com/Lasso/Message/index.lasso?257949 Marc Pinnell to Lasso Talk on 2010-07-31 12:13:24 - IIRC that is exactly what I tried about 4-6 months ago (has it really been that long!?). I fired up 9, tried to move a site over immediately started with errors and roadblocks (startup folder stuff, cTags, at begins, etc) and gave up. Of course in those d... Sat, 31 Jul 2010 09:26:21 -0700 http://www.listsearch.com/Lasso/Message/index.lasso?257948 Tim Taplin to Lasso Talk on 2010-07-31 09:26:21 - Sorry to hear you say that. I've been trying to point out that the easiest way to get going in lasso9 is to keep writing your 8.5 code and run it on lasso9. Once you adjust to the fact that lasso9 is a little more strict, you wonder how you ever w... Sat, 31 Jul 2010 08:44:02 -0700 http://www.listsearch.com/Lasso/Message/index.lasso?257947 Brian Loomis to Lasso Talk on 2010-07-31 08:44:02 - http://www.paragon-cs.com/mag/ There's seven issues up now. It's a really good mag. Brian Loomis http://www.virtualrelations.us (208) 639-2569 - 208 NEW BLOX -- email checked daily -- -- This list is a free service of LassoSoft: http://www... Sat, 31 Jul 2010 08:09:56 -0700 http://www.listsearch.com/Lasso/Message/index.lasso?257946 Marc Pinnell to Lasso Talk on 2010-07-31 08:09:56 - Steve, At this point, I am at a point where a) I am "scared of" Lasso 9 and b) have enough work to fill my weeks with 8.5 leaving little or no time to "start over". Looking at some of the stuff that is being posted leave me with the feeling that using ... Sat, 31 Jul 2010 03:01:37 -0700 http://www.listsearch.com/Lasso/Message/index.lasso?257945 Ke Carlton to Lasso Talk on 2010-07-31 03:01:37 - Cheers - missed that. On 31 July 2010 10:05, <list@carlestam.com> wrote: > 31 jul 2010 kl. 10.14 skrev Ke Carlton: > >> define helloWorld(who::sting) > {return 'Hello '+#who} > > This might classify me as picky. But for the record > defin... Sat, 31 Jul 2010 02:46:28 -0700 http://www.listsearch.com/Lasso/Message/index.lasso?257944 Steve Piercy - Web Site Builder to Lasso Talk on 2010-07-31 02:46:28 - BOO-YAH! Two pairs of eyes are better than one. There was another similar goof: else(action param('fruit')); should be: else(action param('fruit') ! void); This kind of situation will drive a lot of developers crazy trying to ... Sat, 31 Jul 2010 02:31:50 -0700 http://www.listsearch.com/Lasso/Message/index.lasso?257943 Tami Williams to Lasso Talk on 2010-07-31 02:31:50 - +1 On Jul 31, 2010, at 5:21 AM, list@carlestam.com wrote: > Agreed!! > > HDB > Jolle > > 31 jul 2010 kl. 11.15 skrev Tim Taplin: > >> it is very cool that lasso9 calls out the line and position of the >> error > > > -- > This list is a... Sat, 31 Jul 2010 02:21:11 -0700 http://www.listsearch.com/Lasso/Message/index.lasso?257942 list to Lasso Talk on 2010-07-31 02:21:11 - Agreed!! HDB Jolle 31 jul 2010 kl. 11.15 skrev Tim Taplin: > it is very cool that lasso9 calls out the line and position of the error -- This list is a free service of LassoSoft: http://www.LassoSoft.com/ Search the list archives: http://... Sat, 31 Jul 2010 02:15:52 -0700 http://www.listsearch.com/Lasso/Message/index.lasso?257941 Tim Taplin to Lasso Talk on 2010-07-31 02:15:52 - Good catch. sidenote: it is very cool that lasso9 calls out the line and position of the error even if its in an include or a a previously loaded file of tag definitions. In the rare case that its off track somehow, the error screen does show the file ... Sat, 31 Jul 2010 02:05:21 -0700 http://www.listsearch.com/Lasso/Message/index.lasso?257940 list to Lasso Talk on 2010-07-31 02:05:21 - 31 jul 2010 kl. 10.14 skrev Ke Carlton: > define helloWorld(who::sting) > {return 'Hello '+#who} This might classify me as picky. But for the record define helloWorld(who::string) > {return 'Hello '+#who} etc Just to avoid someone copy/pasti... Sat, 31 Jul 2010 01:54:05 -0700 http://www.listsearch.com/Lasso/Message/index.lasso?257939 Tim Taplin to Lasso Talk on 2010-07-31 01:54:05 - Only one change is needed for this to work. On Jul 31, 2010, at 1:38 AM, Steve Piercy - Web Site Builder wrote: > I think the problem is having a reproducible test case to start from. I use this little doo-dad as a reproducible test case for sessions... Sat, 31 Jul 2010 01:53:49 -0700 http://www.listsearch.com/Lasso/Message/index.lasso?257938 Steve Piercy - Web Site Builder to Lasso Talk on 2010-07-31 01:53:49 - On 7/31/10 at 9:31 AM, list@carlestam.com pronounced: > Ah, and how did I find out about the variable definition code? > Well, I looked here: > http://download.lassosoft.com/svn/lasso/lasso9 source > Or to be more precise I've created an SVN working... Sat, 31 Jul 2010 01:44:52 -0700 http://www.listsearch.com/Lasso/Message/index.lasso?257937 Ke Carlton to Lasso Talk on 2010-07-31 01:44:52 - Yup, or you could do the below to override the default: 10.000->asPrice('$'); Ke On 31 July 2010 09:26, Tami Williams <tami@asktami.com> wrote: > > I'm guessing 10.000-> asPrice ***10.0? > > Do I have it right? -- This list is a free s... Sat, 31 Jul 2010 01:40:57 -0700 http://www.listsearch.com/Lasso/Message/index.lasso?257936 Ke Carlton to Lasso Talk on 2010-07-31 01:40:57 - On 31 July 2010 08:40, Tami Williams <tami@asktami.com> wrote: > > if: !(var defined:'IndexLinks') || (var:'IndexLinks') array() ; > --- do stuff > /if; The above is potentially doing three things (even in L8). 1. Checking if $IndexLinks ex... Sat, 31 Jul 2010 01:33:40 -0700 http://www.listsearch.com/Lasso/Message/index.lasso?257935 Tim Taplin to Lasso Talk on 2010-07-31 01:33:40 - On Jul 31, 2010, at 2:13 AM, Tami Williams wrote: > Can someone tell me how var values is supposed to work? > > <br>var values testVarX is [var values->find('testVarX')] > > I get: > var values testVarX is array() > var values is an array (... Sat, 31 Jul 2010 01:26:39 -0700 http://www.listsearch.com/Lasso/Message/index.lasso?257934 Tami Williams to Lasso Talk on 2010-07-31 01:26:39 - For string + precision, etc. Lasso 8.5 you'd use [Decimal->SetFormat] at the top of the page (for every page that you wanted it - for example in an include file that's included in every page in your site). But you'd have to do $[var'varname']. O... Sat, 31 Jul 2010 01:25:21 -0700 http://www.listsearch.com/Lasso/Message/index.lasso?257933 Ke Carlton to Lasso Talk on 2010-07-31 01:25:21 - On 31 July 2010 08:31, <list@carlestam.com> wrote: > > The position LassoSoft (Kyle) took when setting out to create the next generation Lasso was in my opinion the right one. Get rid of old legacy stuff, move the language into the forefront of languag... Sat, 31 Jul 2010 01:14:07 -0700 http://www.listsearch.com/Lasso/Message/index.lasso?257932 Ke Carlton to Lasso Talk on 2010-07-31 01:14:07 - This? define decimal->asPrice(currency::string ' ',precision::integer 2) > { return #currency + .asString(-precision #precision)} For the list, this is simply defining a new method (member tag) within the decimal type. I don't believe there's a c... Sat, 31 Jul 2010 01:13:57 -0700 http://www.listsearch.com/Lasso/Message/index.lasso?257931 Tami Williams to Lasso Talk on 2010-07-31 01:13:57 - Can someone tell me how var values is supposed to work? <br>var values testVarX is [var values->find('testVarX')] I get: var values testVarX is array() even though I know testVarX is a string "this is my testvar". and see that if I do [var('tes... Sat, 31 Jul 2010 01:07:07 -0700 http://www.listsearch.com/Lasso/Message/index.lasso?257930 Tami Williams to Lasso Talk on 2010-07-31 01:07:07 - So, I've taken out all my log criticals and changed my conditional statement and ... This works: if: !(var defined:'IndexLinks') || (var:'IndexLinks') array() || (var:'IndexLinks') null ; $IndexLinks array(); $IndexLinks->Insert...