http://www.listsearch.com/InDesign/index.lasso Indesign Talk is an email discussion forum for discussion of the InDesign page layout product from Adobe Systems, Inc. en-us Sat, 31 Jul 2010 17:46:01 -0700 http://www.listsearch.com/InDesign/Message/index.lasso?154724 Michael Brady to InDesign Talk on 2010-07-31 17:46:01 - On Jul 31, 2010, at 8:32 PM, John Jason Jordan wrote: > So what fonts have y'all banned from your studios? Arial! <g> Antique Olive. Hard to use that face, and to think that it was designed to be a direct competitor of Neue Haas Grotesk. Actual... Sat, 31 Jul 2010 17:32:35 -0700 http://www.listsearch.com/InDesign/Message/index.lasso?154723 John Jason Jordan to InDesign Talk on 2010-07-31 17:32:35 - On Sat, 31 Jul 2010 16:31:34 -0400 "Bevi Chagnon | PubCom" <chagnon@pubcom.com> dijo: >It may render as well, but Verdana is one of the butt-ugliest fonts >ever designed, even uglier than Souvenir, Korinna, and Hobo (IMHO, of >course). Verdana is ba... Sat, 31 Jul 2010 15:01:54 -0700 http://www.listsearch.com/InDesign/Message/index.lasso?154722 Michael Brady to InDesign Talk on 2010-07-31 15:01:54 - I'm asking this here because I don't belong to the Illustrator list. I want to make a five pointed star that is actually a progression of three or four fractal (mandelbrot) iterations. I don't know how to do that in AI and as I remember from FH, it onl... Sat, 31 Jul 2010 13:45:29 -0700 http://www.listsearch.com/InDesign/Message/index.lasso?154721 Michael Brady to InDesign Talk on 2010-07-31 13:45:29 - On Jul 31, 2010, at 4:31 PM, Bevi Chagnon | PubCom wrote: > What we need are some newer font designs or technologies that work for print > and render well for screens too, regardless of the platform. > > I haven't heard of anything coming down the ... Sat, 31 Jul 2010 13:39:13 -0700 http://www.listsearch.com/InDesign/Message/index.lasso?154720 Michael Brady to InDesign Talk on 2010-07-31 13:39:13 - On Jul 31, 2010, at 4:31 PM, Bevi Chagnon | PubCom wrote: > It may render as well, but Verdana is one of the butt-ugliest fonts ever > designed, Ah, you forget its bunkmates, Trebuchet and Tahoma (a near twin). Verdana and Tahoma have a whiff of... Sat, 31 Jul 2010 13:31:34 -0700 http://www.listsearch.com/InDesign/Message/index.lasso?154719 Bevi Chagnon | PubCom to InDesign Talk on 2010-07-31 13:31:34 - Let me clarify what I originally posted. I was answering a portion of the original question, "legibility of Sans and Serif fonts." Thomas Phiney wrote: << No, you can't tune ClearType on the Mac, because ClearType is not available on the Mac. >> ... Sat, 31 Jul 2010 11:11:40 -0700 http://www.listsearch.com/InDesign/Message/index.lasso?154718 Thomas Phinney to InDesign Talk on 2010-07-31 11:11:40 - On Sat, Jul 31, 2010 at 2:59 AM, InDesign Talk <indesign@lists.lassosoft.com> wrote: On Sat, 31 Jul 2010 02:03:25 -0600, Steve Harley wrote > On 2010-07-31 00:07 , Bevi Chagnon | PubCom wrote: >> Chuck M wrote: >> << Should I expect Open Type, o... Sat, 31 Jul 2010 09:40:57 -0700 http://www.listsearch.com/InDesign/Message/index.lasso?154717 Rick Strong to InDesign Talk on 2010-07-31 09:40:57 - A clear explanation of sub-pixel font rendering here: http://www.grc.com/ctwhat.htm Rick Strong, Ottawa -- This list is a free service of LassoSoft: http://www.LassoSoft.com/ Search the list archives: http://www.ListSearch.com/InDesign/Browse/ ... Sat, 31 Jul 2010 01:03:25 -0700 http://www.listsearch.com/InDesign/Message/index.lasso?154716 steve harley to InDesign Talk on 2010-07-31 01:03:25 - On 2010-07-31 00:07 , Bevi Chagnon | PubCom wrote: > Chuck M wrote: > << Should I expect Open Type, or another format suitable for my Mac?>> > > ClearType fonts are OpenType so you can install them on your Mac. I don't > know if Microsoft's tuner is... Fri, 30 Jul 2010 23:07:02 -0700 http://www.listsearch.com/InDesign/Message/index.lasso?154715 Bevi Chagnon | PubCom to InDesign Talk on 2010-07-30 23:07:02 - Chuck M wrote: << Should I expect Open Type, or another format suitable for my Mac? >> ClearType fonts are OpenType so you can install them on your Mac. I don't know if Microsoft's tuner is available for the Mac, however even without the tuner the f... Fri, 30 Jul 2010 17:25:36 -0700 http://www.listsearch.com/InDesign/Message/index.lasso?154714 Paul Tomzak to InDesign Talk on 2010-07-30 17:25:36 - Kuler works just fine for me and I am on a 32 bit MAC. Paul > From: Rick Gordon <lists@rickgordon.com> > Reply-To: InDesign Talk <indesign@lists.lassosoft.com> > Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2010 16:37:49 -0700 > To: InDesign Talk <indesign@lists.lassosoft... Fri, 30 Jul 2010 17:15:09 -0700 http://www.listsearch.com/InDesign/Message/index.lasso?154713 Bob Levine to InDesign Talk on 2010-07-30 17:15:09 - Kuler runs fine for me on 64 bit Win 7 and on Snow Leopard. Bob -----Original Message----- From: InDesign Talk [mailto:indesign@lists.lassosoft.com] On Behalf Of Rick Gordon Sent: Friday, July 30, 2010 7:38 PM To: InDesign Talk Subject: Re: Kul... Fri, 30 Jul 2010 16:37:49 -0700 http://www.listsearch.com/InDesign/Message/index.lasso?154712 Rick Gordon to InDesign Talk on 2010-07-30 16:37:49 - Is it possibly a 32-bit vs. 64-bit issue? ------------------ On 7/30/10 at 10:29 AM +0800, Keith Feltham wrote in a message entitled "Re: Kuler is a no-show": >>IDCS5 (v. 7.0) >> >>I wanted to work with Kuler, but when I click on Window > Exte... Fri, 30 Jul 2010 16:04:16 -0700 http://www.listsearch.com/InDesign/Message/index.lasso?154711 David Creamer to InDesign Talk on 2010-07-30 16:04:16 - Picking percentages out of the air, about 80-90% of your styles should be paragraph styles. Character styles should be reserved for specialty formatting WITHIN the paragraph. Also, if I have a paragraph called Body and want to make the ENTIRE paragr... Fri, 30 Jul 2010 11:12:49 -0700 http://www.listsearch.com/InDesign/Message/index.lasso?154710 Brian Pearce to InDesign Talk on 2010-07-30 11:12:49 - If I recall correctly (and depending on the version you're using), there should be a checkbox within the updater program that allows you to do this. BRIAN PEARCE Red Jacket Press, LLC <http://www.redjacketpress.com> -- This list is a free service... Fri, 30 Jul 2010 10:44:57 -0700 http://www.listsearch.com/InDesign/Message/index.lasso?154709 Michael Brady to InDesign Talk on 2010-07-30 10:44:57 - IDCS5 v. 7.0 It seems that the Welcome Screen has a limited capacity, or at least my IDCS5 Welcome Screen does. It only displays the last 3 files, although the File > Open Recent lists up to 30, the limit I set in Preferences > File Handling. Shees... Fri, 30 Jul 2010 10:06:36 -0700 http://www.listsearch.com/InDesign/Message/index.lasso?154708 Harry S. Pariser to InDesign Talk on 2010-07-30 10:06:36 - How do I remove the updater icon from the menu bar on a Mac (10.64)? I could not find a way to do this. Also, I have Cue, Version CS3 installed in my system preferences. I have no current use for this (that I know of). Is there a way/need to uni... Fri, 30 Jul 2010 07:57:47 -0700 http://www.listsearch.com/InDesign/Message/index.lasso?154707 Peter Truskier to InDesign Talk on 2010-07-30 07:57:47 - On Jul 29, 2010, at 7:29 PM, Keith Feltham wrote: >> IDCS5 (v. 7.0) >> >> I wanted to work with Kuler, but when I click on Window > >> Extensions > Kuler, nothing happens. I tried it at least six times, >> then checked with Adobe's knowledgebas... Fri, 30 Jul 2010 06:23:37 -0700 http://www.listsearch.com/InDesign/Message/index.lasso?154706 Charles Miller to InDesign Talk on 2010-07-30 06:23:37 - On Jul 29, 2010, at 9:40 PM, Bevi Chagnon | PubCom wrote: > For screen readability, look into Microsoft's ClearType fonts. > http://www.microsoft.com/typography/WhatIsClearType.mspx > http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ms749295.aspx > http://... Fri, 30 Jul 2010 04:05:33 -0700 http://www.listsearch.com/InDesign/Message/index.lasso?154705 Daniel Charles Ross to InDesign Talk on 2010-07-30 04:05:33 - Mine us working as expected. DCR On 29 Jul 2010, at 10:29 PM, Keith Feltham wrote: >> IDCS5 (v. 7.0) >> >> I wanted to work with Kuler, but when I click on Window > Extensions > Kuler, nothing happens. I tried it at least six times, t... Thu, 29 Jul 2010 19:40:23 -0700 http://www.listsearch.com/InDesign/Message/index.lasso?154704 Bevi Chagnon | PubCom to InDesign Talk on 2010-07-29 19:40:23 - For screen readability, look into Microsoft's ClearType fonts. http://www.microsoft.com/typography/WhatIsClearType.mspx http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ms749295.aspx http://research.microsoft.com/en-us/projects/ClearType/ http://www.microso... Thu, 29 Jul 2010 19:29:13 -0700 http://www.listsearch.com/InDesign/Message/index.lasso?154703 Keith Feltham to InDesign Talk on 2010-07-29 19:29:13 - >IDCS5 (v. 7.0) > >I wanted to work with Kuler, but when I click on Window > >Extensions > Kuler, nothing happens. I tried it at least six times, >then checked with Adobe's knowledgebase. Nothing there. And I'm live >on the internet, so I do have ... Thu, 29 Jul 2010 19:18:45 -0700 http://www.listsearch.com/InDesign/Message/index.lasso?154702 Michael Brady to InDesign Talk on 2010-07-29 19:18:45 - IDCS5 (v. 7.0) I wanted to work with Kuler, but when I click on Window > Extensions > Kuler, nothing happens. I tried it at least six times, then checked with Adobe's knowledgebase. Nothing there. And I'm live on the internet, so I do have an open conn... Thu, 29 Jul 2010 12:51:50 -0700 http://www.listsearch.com/InDesign/Message/index.lasso?154701 Mike Witherell to InDesign Talk on 2010-07-29 12:51:50 - You are correct, Jason. The heavy lifting is done by means of paragraph styles. Best to you, Mike On Thu, 29 Jul 2010 17:10:44 +0000 "Jason C. Roberts" <shockjay@gmail.com> wrote: > I work at a real estate investment company that puts > toge... Thu, 29 Jul 2010 11:11:58 -0700 http://www.listsearch.com/InDesign/Message/index.lasso?154700 Kat to InDesign Talk on 2010-07-29 11:11:58 - On Jul 29, 2010, at 7:58 AM, Charles Miller wrote: > True. Would that it stopped there. > > Realizing how obsolete my old HTML skills were, I resolved a while back to learn CSS and XHTML. Just when I was feeling reasonably good about those skills, I ... Thu, 29 Jul 2010 10:34:10 -0700 http://www.listsearch.com/InDesign/Message/index.lasso?154699 Michael Brady to InDesign Talk on 2010-07-29 10:34:10 - On Jul 29, 2010, at 1:24 PM, Michael Brady wrote: > As for your comment about bullets, you can apply a paragraph style to a bullet when you use the automatic bullet feature. Oops. You can apply a *character* style to a bullet with the autobullet fea... Thu, 29 Jul 2010 10:24:26 -0700 http://www.listsearch.com/InDesign/Message/index.lasso?154698 Michael Brady to InDesign Talk on 2010-07-29 10:24:26 - On Jul 29, 2010, at 1:10 PM, Jason C. Roberts wrote: > My questions is this - Is a long document for InDesign better suited to have more paragraph styles or character styles? Because of the bullets and bold characters before a set of plain text I would... Thu, 29 Jul 2010 10:23:32 -0700 http://www.listsearch.com/InDesign/Message/index.lasso?154697 William Adams to InDesign Talk on 2010-07-29 10:23:32 - On Jul 29, 2010, at 1:10 PM, Jason C. Roberts wrote: > I work at a real estate investment company that puts together marketing packages for investors and lenders. After a 2+ year absence from working on InDesign books at my job (long story but don't a... Thu, 29 Jul 2010 10:10:44 -0700 http://www.listsearch.com/InDesign/Message/index.lasso?154696 Jason C. Roberts to InDesign Talk on 2010-07-29 10:10:44 - I work at a real estate investment company that puts together marketing packages for investors and lenders. After a 2+ year absence from working on InDesign books at my job (long story but don't ask why) I am about to jump back into the fray by working o... Thu, 29 Jul 2010 10:05:11 -0700 http://www.listsearch.com/InDesign/Message/index.lasso?154695 Rick Strong to InDesign Talk on 2010-07-29 10:05:11 - Quite often the subject comes up in relation to people with slightly, moderately or seriously impaired vision. The comparison studies that I have read (only a few I admit), have two main variables that affect outcome: Times Roman (almost a compressed... Thu, 29 Jul 2010 09:59:32 -0700 http://www.listsearch.com/InDesign/Message/index.lasso?154694 Bill Amatneek to InDesign Talk on 2010-07-29 09:59:32 - Thanks for this reference, Michael. A wonderful article that debunks the long-alleged superiority of serif fonts. Best regards to all, Bill Amatneek Vineyards Press On 7/29/2010 2:56 AM, InDesign Talk wrote: > From: Michael Brady<bradydesign@... Thu, 29 Jul 2010 09:57:10 -0700 http://www.listsearch.com/InDesign/Message/index.lasso?154693 Bill Amatneek to InDesign Talk on 2010-07-29 09:57:10 - Robert, do you mean "How To Advertise" by Roman and Maas? Best regards to all on the list, Bill Amatneek Vineyards Press On 7/29/2010 2:56 AM, InDesign Talk wrote: > From: Robert Severn<rsevern@severnet.com> > Subject: Re: Comparison of legibili... Thu, 29 Jul 2010 07:58:41 -0700 http://www.listsearch.com/InDesign/Message/index.lasso?154692 Charles Miller to InDesign Talk on 2010-07-29 07:58:41 - On Jul 29, 2010, at 7:52 AM, Bob Levine wrote: > If you have any desire whatsoever to be a web designer, you had better learn > HTML and CSS. Without that foundation, it won't matter what program you're > using. True. Would that it stopped there... Thu, 29 Jul 2010 07:12:39 -0700 http://www.listsearch.com/InDesign/Message/index.lasso?154691 Nini Tj der to InDesign Talk on 2010-07-29 07:12:39 - Yes, aren't we... ;) On 29 jul 2010, at 14.43, Ann Farr wrote: > My questions to the GoLive list are invariably about something in GoLive. I've seen questions about DreamWeaver too and I think Patrice has written up a sort of GoLive > DreamWeaver pa... Thu, 29 Jul 2010 05:54:39 -0700 http://www.listsearch.com/InDesign/Message/index.lasso?154690 Patrice Olivier-Wilson to InDesign Talk on 2010-07-29 05:54:39 - On 7/29/10 8:43 AM, Ann Farr wrote: > > > My questions to the GoLive list are invariably about something in GoLive. I've seen questions about DreamWeaver too and I think Patrice has written up a sort of GoLive> DreamWeaver page somewhere. Mostly thoug... Thu, 29 Jul 2010 05:52:25 -0700 http://www.listsearch.com/InDesign/Message/index.lasso?154689 Bob Levine to InDesign Talk on 2010-07-29 05:52:25 - I've been following this thread silently but I'll throw my $0.02 out there. If you have any desire whatsoever to be a web designer, you had better learn HTML and CSS. Without that foundation, it won't matter what program you're using. Bob -----... Thu, 29 Jul 2010 05:43:34 -0700 http://www.listsearch.com/InDesign/Message/index.lasso?154688 Ann Farr to InDesign Talk on 2010-07-29 05:43:34 - Kat asked: > I've been wondering what the GoLive list is up to lately. What subjects > do they cover now? > kat My questions to the GoLive list are invariably about something in GoLive. I've seen questions about DreamWeaver too and I think Patr... Wed, 28 Jul 2010 09:50:12 -0700 http://www.listsearch.com/InDesign/Message/index.lasso?154687 Kat to InDesign Talk on 2010-07-28 09:50:12 - On Jul 28, 2010, at 5:15 AM, Ann Farr wrote: > Michael Brady asked: > >> And tell me how to grok CSS! > > There are some truly wonderful people on the GoLive list -- people who mourned the loss of GL but were not going to take up DreamWeaver and ... Wed, 28 Jul 2010 09:02:02 -0700 http://www.listsearch.com/InDesign/Message/index.lasso?154686 Robert Severn to InDesign Talk on 2010-07-28 09:02:02 - I would also suggest David Olgivy's HOW TO ADVERTISE - it has a lot of info on tested formats and type selection. On Jul 28, 2010, at 10:02 AM, Michael Brady wrote: > Periodically, someone will ask about the comparative legibility of a > san... Wed, 28 Jul 2010 08:04:01 -0700 http://www.listsearch.com/InDesign/Message/index.lasso?154685 David Bergsland to InDesign Talk on 2010-07-28 08:04:01 - I wonder if he talks about aperture. Most ignore that and I find it key. On Jul 28, 2010, at 9:54 AM, Michael Brady wrote: > One more thing. > > I found the alexpoole site with the citations about legibility of > sans and serif fonts after I re... Wed, 28 Jul 2010 07:54:28 -0700 http://www.listsearch.com/InDesign/Message/index.lasso?154684 Michael Brady to InDesign Talk on 2010-07-28 07:54:28 - One more thing. I found the alexpoole site with the citations about legibility of sans and serif fonts after I read Colin Wheildon's "Type & Layout," which contains some very enlightening research conclusions about the *perceived* ease or difficulty of... Wed, 28 Jul 2010 07:53:04 -0700 http://www.listsearch.com/InDesign/Message/index.lasso?154683 David Bergsland to InDesign Talk on 2010-07-28 07:53:04 - I agree on legibility, but readability is another issue entirely. Many fonts are highly legible, but far too uncomfortable to read for any length at all. I say that as a font designer building a following because of readability. On Jul 28, ... Wed, 28 Jul 2010 07:02:25 -0700 http://www.listsearch.com/InDesign/Message/index.lasso?154682 Michael Brady to InDesign Talk on 2010-07-28 07:02:25 - Periodically, someone will ask about the comparative legibility of a sans v. serif face. Here is a site with a relatively brief discussion of the issues but with quite a good annotated list of cited research studies. http://www.alexpoole.info/academic/... Wed, 28 Jul 2010 05:15:19 -0700 http://www.listsearch.com/InDesign/Message/index.lasso?154681 Ann Farr to InDesign Talk on 2010-07-28 05:15:19 - Michael Brady asked: > And tell me how to grok CSS! There are some truly wonderful people on the GoLive list -- people who mourned the loss of GL but were not going to take up DreamWeaver and who all went ahead and 'grokked' CSS (except for me!). If... Tue, 27 Jul 2010 20:52:36 -0700 http://www.listsearch.com/InDesign/Message/index.lasso?154680 Rick Strong to InDesign Talk on 2010-07-27 20:52:36 - If you can afford not to, don't bother trying to learn how to code your own site. There are people out there who can do it quicker and better. Instead, maybe give someone a sketch of a layout and good directions on what you want to have happen. You s... Tue, 27 Jul 2010 14:20:42 -0700 http://www.listsearch.com/InDesign/Message/index.lasso?154679 Kat to InDesign Talk on 2010-07-27 14:20:42 - http://www.behance.net/tour/linkedin This free portfolio looks like one place to start. Anybody used it? kat On Jul 27, 2010, at 1:31 PM, Kat wrote: > On Jul 26, 2010, at 9:40 AM, Michael Brady wrote: > >> Now I have plunged head-first into the d... Tue, 27 Jul 2010 13:31:34 -0700 http://www.listsearch.com/InDesign/Message/index.lasso?154678 Kat to InDesign Talk on 2010-07-27 13:31:34 - On Jul 26, 2010, at 9:40 AM, Michael Brady wrote: > Now I have plunged head-first into the deep end of the Twitter, Facebook, and LinkedIn Your comment made me think that I should make better use of Twitter, Facebook, and LinkedIn to increase busin... Tue, 27 Jul 2010 13:17:14 -0700 http://www.listsearch.com/InDesign/Message/index.lasso?154677 James W. Bogart Jr. to InDesign Talk on 2010-07-27 13:17:14 - On Jul 27, 2010, at 2:27 PM, Andrew Brown wrote: >> Or maybe the English want everybody to be the same ;-) > > No, the English prefer everyone else to be different, and inferior. > The Americans prefer the other solution, after all a pint's a poun... Tue, 27 Jul 2010 12:27:25 -0700 http://www.listsearch.com/InDesign/Message/index.lasso?154676 Andrew Brown to InDesign Talk on 2010-07-27 12:27:25 - > Or maybe the English want everybody to be the same ;-) No, the English prefer everyone else to be different, and inferior. The Americans prefer the other solution, after all a pint's a pound the world around. AB -- This list is a free ... Tue, 27 Jul 2010 10:06:48 -0700 http://www.listsearch.com/InDesign/Message/index.lasso?154675 Gmail to InDesign Talk on 2010-07-27 10:06:48 - Sorry for the strange signature: I can't post any message from my main mail account (jmlevy@orange.fr) Le 1 juil. 10 23:55, Valter Viglietti - Frame Studio a crit : > > French people are strange guys... :-D > > They are the only one (that I k...