The auto completion of BBEdit is good. But if I am writing the first
word of a sentence, and there is a word matching what I typed however
with first letter being lower case pop up, by selecting this word,
BBEdit will put the lower case word there, I have to change the first
letter to upper case again.

It would be great if BBEdit can put the word with the first letter
upper case there automatically... make sense ?

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At 01:47 -0800 on 02/06/2010, junqin wrote about a better auto
completion with automatic first letter upper :

>The auto completion of BBEdit is good. But if I am writing the first
>word of a sentence, and there is a word matching what I typed however
>with first letter being lower case pop up, by selecting this word,
>BBEdit will put the lower case word there, I have to change the first
>letter to upper case again.
>
>It would be great if BBEdit can put the word with the first letter
>upper case there automatically... make sense ?


It is not only the situation where you are starting a sentence (which
would need BBEdit to somehow be aware of this). What you are really
asking for, I think, is for the auto complete to respect the first
letter case of what you are typing when it completes the word. IOW:
If you start to type Xyyy, it will insert Xyyyzzz not xyyyzzz when it
completes the word. This will give the same result without the need
for knowing the location of the word.

It also solves the case where the same string of letters are
different words based on if the first letter is Upper or Lower case.
The only word that I know of (in English) where this matters is
Polish (reference to Poland) and polish (shine).

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Thanks Robert for the quick reply.

Would it be possible that BBEdit recognize the start of a sentence? If
so, let this part of code works with the part of auto completion
would, in my opinion, give the correct case automatically ( I do not
really mean to type the correct case by myself when I start a
sentence ... ).

Of course, this should be configurable, otherwise people who do not
want to make the first letter upper case may find this feature is very
annoying .


On Feb 6, 8:18 pm, "Robert A. Rosenberg" <rar...@banet.net> wrote:
> At 01:47 -0800 on 02/06/2010, junqin wrote about a better auto
> completion with automatic first letter upper :
>
> >The auto completion of BBEdit is good. But if I am writing the first
> >word of a sentence, and there is a word matching what I typed however
> >with first letter being lower case pop up, by selecting this word,
> >BBEdit will put the lower case word there, I  have to change the first
> >letter to upper case again.
>
> >It would be great if BBEdit can put the word with the first letter
> >upper case there automatically... make sense ?
>
> It is not only the situation where you are starting a sentence (which
> would need BBEdit to somehow be aware of this). What you are really
> asking for, I think, is for the auto complete to respect the first
> letter case of what you are typing when it completes the word. IOW:
> If you start to type Xyyy, it will insert Xyyyzzz not xyyyzzz when it
> completes the word. This will give the same result without the need
> for knowing the location of the word.
>
> It also solves the case where the same string of letters are
> different words based on if the first letter is Upper or Lower case.
> The only word that I know of (in English) where this matters is
> Polish (reference to Poland) and polish (shine).

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On Feb 6, 11:56 am, junqin <qinjunje...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Would it be possible that BBEdit recognize the start of a sentence? If
> so, let this part of code works with the part of auto completion
> would, in my opinion, give the correct case automatically ( I do not
> really mean to type the correct case by myself when I start a
> sentence ... ).

Although not part of auto-complete, you could use Text > Change Case >
Capitalize Sentences after doing all your typing.

--steve

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At 11:56 -0800 on 02/06/2010, junqin wrote about Re: a better auto
completion with automatic first letter up:

>Thanks Robert for the quick reply.
>
>Would it be possible that BBEdit recognize the start of a sentence? If
>so, let this part of code works with the part of auto completion
>would, in my opinion, give the correct case automatically ( I do not
>really mean to type the correct case by myself when I start a
>sentence ... ).
>
>Of course, this should be configurable, otherwise people who do not
>want to make the first letter upper case may find this feature is very
>annoying .

I have no idea of how BBEdit would recognize the first word of a
sentence (although it can be done if you are using patten matching
which is a different issue). The point I was making is that you would
be starting a sentence by typing an upper case letter and the correct
IMO way for the word you are typing to be completed is to preserve
the case you supply (not to figure out what case it should be based
on heuristics such as "is this the start of a sentence?"). As is the
case with Polish/polish having the program second guess the user is
not a good idea (especially if you are typing the works of e e
cummings).

>
>On Feb 6, 8:18 pm, "Robert A. Rosenberg" <rar...@banet.net> wrote:
>> At 01:47 -0800 on 02/06/2010, junqin wrote about a better auto
>> completion with automatic first letter upper :
>>
>> >The auto completion of BBEdit is good. But if I am writing the first
>> >word of a sentence, and there is a word matching what I typed however
>> >with first letter being lower case pop up, by selecting this word,
>> >BBEdit will put the lower case word there, I  have to change the first
>> >letter to upper case again.
>>
>> >It would be great if BBEdit can put the word with the first letter
>> >upper case there automatically... make sense ?
>>
>> It is not only the situation where you are starting a sentence (which
>> would need BBEdit to somehow be aware of this). What you are really
>> asking for, I think, is for the auto complete to respect the first
>> letter case of what you are typing when it completes the word. IOW:
>> If you start to type Xyyy, it will insert Xyyyzzz not xyyyzzz when it
>> completes the word. This will give the same result without the need
>> for knowing the location of the word.
>>
>> It also solves the case where the same string of letters are
>> different words based on if the first letter is Upper or Lower case.
>> The only word that I know of (in English) where this matters is
>> Polish (reference to Poland) and polish (shine).
>
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On 6-Feb-2010, at 19:26, Robert A. Rosenberg wrote:
> The point I was making is that you would be starting a sentence by
> typing an upper case letter and the correct IMO way for the word you
> are typing to be completed is to preserve the case you supply (not
> to figure out what case it should be based on heuristics such as "is
> this the start of a sentence?"). As is the case with Polish/polish
> having the program second guess the user is not a good idea
> (especially if you are typing the works of e e cummings).

Exactly. If I am starting a sentence with iPod or iMac I also don't
want the case changed just because it's the start of the sentence.

It's not a BBEdit solution, but Typenator will do substitutions and
preserve case. It will also do substitutions based on case (so bbedit
gets changed to BBEdit, for example).


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At 08:02 -0700 on 02/07/2010, Lewis@[Protected] about Re: a better
auto completion with automatic first letter up:

>On 6-Feb-2010, at 19:26, Robert A. Rosenberg wrote:
>>The point I was making is that you would be starting a sentence by
>>typing an upper case letter and the correct IMO way for the word
>>you are typing to be completed is to preserve the case you supply
>>(not to figure out what case it should be based on heuristics such
>>as "is this the start of a sentence?"). As is the case with
>>Polish/polish having the program second guess the user is not a
>>good idea (especially if you are typing the works of e e cummings).
>
>Exactly. If I am starting a sentence with iPod or iMac I also don't
>want the case changed just because it's the start of the sentence.

I was talking about starting a sentence/word with an Upper Case
letter and having that Upper Case preserved not automatically
changing a lower case first letter in a sentence to upper case due to
its position.

>
>It's not a BBEdit solution, but Typenator will do substitutions and
>preserve case. It will also do substitutions based on case (so
>bbedit gets changed to BBEdit, for example).

I think the latter is due to it having BBEdit in its dictionary (but
not bbedit) so when it sees a word that is spelled the same as a word
in its dictionary (but in all lower case while its copy has some
upper case) it will replace it. This is the way my spell checker
works (it will replace an all lower case word with a mixed case
version if that is the only version it has).

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At 08:02 -0700 on 02/07/2010, Lewis@[Protected] about Re: a better
auto completion with automatic first letter up:

>On 6-Feb-2010, at 19:26, Robert A. Rosenberg wrote:
>>The point I was making is that you would be starting a sentence by
>>typing an upper case letter and the correct IMO way for the word
>>you are typing to be completed is to preserve the case you supply
>>(not to figure out what case it should be based on heuristics such
>>as "is this the start of a sentence?"). As is the case with
>>Polish/polish having the program second guess the user is not a
>>good idea (especially if you are typing the works of e e cummings).
>
>Exactly. If I am starting a sentence with iPod or iMac I also don't
>want the case changed just because it's the start of the sentence.

I was talking about starting a sentence/word with an Upper Case
letter and having that Upper Case preserved not automatically
changing a lower case first letter in a sentence to upper case due to
its position.

>
>It's not a BBEdit solution, but Typenator will do substitutions and
>preserve case. It will also do substitutions based on case (so
>bbedit gets changed to BBEdit, for example).

I think the latter is due to it having BBEdit in its dictionary (but
not bbedit) so when it sees a word that is spelled the same as a word
in its dictionary (but in all lower case while its copy has some
upper case) it will replace it. This is the way my spell checker
works (it will replace an all lower case word with a mixed case
version if that is the only version it has).

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